Character Snobs?

Granite71Granite71
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Okay, I had an odd experience, I haven't unlocked Gelimer so I've been playing him on Beginner AI while he's in rotation to pick up a few achievements(and the dailies). 3-4th game in we're in the lobby and a player states "Eww a Gelimer noob" and left.
1. It was against beginner AI.
2. The man is a tank, use him for what he's built for. In beginner I don't think there is anything that he can't one on one once he's lvl 10 or higher. All it takes is slaughterers gaiters and he can run with over charge up as long as there are enemies to hit in reach. And his control abilities let him keep the enemy Hypers in range of the strikers and specialists long enough to take care of those last few pesky hp.
3. The other 2 players had picked Hypers that complemented a Tank.
4. I consider myself only moderately skilled and after just 7-8 I've been MVP twice while playing Gelimer.

Don't get me wrong I can tear it up better with Cain when derping around in beginner when I'm going for kills or assists. but there are pros and cons to every character. If it's a practice game wait and see whether or not the player knows how to run the Hyper they picked or not. Don't cop an attitude and leave because no one you know can play a particular Hyper well.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical
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    Sometimes people are simply ridiculous. While I have no idea who that other person was, I'm confident that you didn't want to actually group with him. In another game, I once had someone kick me from a pick-up group because he was upset that I was rolling greed (not need) on everything. Apparently he wanted everyone to pass and have no one in the group get any loot.

    In a decently balanced game, there are no bad hypers, but only bad players. Such as the player who insisted that he can't handle having a Gelimer on his team.

    One caution about tanks in AI matches is that if you have too many bot teammates and no players who can deal much damage, it can make games basically unwinnable. If you're trying to make a push to take down the final enemy tower, your bot teammates are all off jungling somewhere and leaving you to fight 1 on 3, and you can't deal much damage yourself, you may be stuck.

    Also, there are three AI skill levels. Beginner AI matches mean that the AI bots could use any of the three in order to scale to the skill of the players. Veteran AI matches only mean that your AI bot opponents can't use the lowest skill level AI but have to use one of the higher two. Which if the two still scales to the skill level of the players.
    Granite71
  • Granite71Granite71
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    Thank you for the information on the AI levels. The difference in bot skill was something I've wondered about but never looked into as I barely play enough to get the dailies. As for bot teammates I've so far been lucky enough that fewer than 1 of 10 games have had a teammate disconnect long enough to switch to AI. Still annoying, but not as bad as a teammate that might as well be an AI.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical
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    A lot of your teammates in AI matches will be bots right from the start, as the matching system is rather weird and commonly won't wait until you have four players. Anyone whose game loads extremely fast at the loading screens is a bot, even if they're on your team. Those bots aren't marked as AI the way that a replacement for a departed player is.

    Sometimes the game gives you three bot teammates right from the start. If that's the case and you're a tank or some other low-damage hyper, you're better off just closing the game to abort the match, as it's likely going to be impossible to win the match.
  • Granite71Granite71
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    Ah so if my teammates run off to kill monsters exclusively they could be bots as likely as not. of it they run by as I'm trying to kill the invader and don't even take a swing.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical
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    You can tell which teammates are bots with about 98% accuracy at the hyper selection screen. Details are here:

    http://forums.hyperuniverse.nexon.net/discussion/4910/how-to-spot-bots-in-ai-matches

    But you can tell with 100% accuracy at the loading screen after everyone has chosen a hyper and is loading the game. Bots load massively faster than real players because they don't have to actually load anything, so anyone on your team who loads at the same speed as the bots on the other team is a bot.

    Bots who are on your team commonly have a lower AI skill level than enemy bots, too, so they might get two or three times as many deaths as kills. That's in addition to stupid AI that will decide that a golden opportunity to kill an undefended tower is a good time to go jungling. If you can kill enemy hypers without any help from your teammates, you can win anyway. But that's very hard to do if you're a tank that can't deal much damage yourself.
  • Granite71Granite71
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    edited March 11, 2018
    I guess I got lucky, only lost one time while getting the 10 wins for the story. It also explains how I MVP'd as Gelimer with an 8 :P